Which Field?

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Which Field?  —  3-4-2017
I have often encouraged others to see themselves as ‘in the ministry.’ All Born Again Believers are (should be) in something they know they are doing for the Lord. Taking care of elderly parent? Rearing children? Making an honest living for your family?  MINISTRY!!!  And there are other forms of ministry more recognized as such. At times, the difference lies in whether we realize what we do is ministry for the Lord. There are two “fields” where we work for Him.
The Wheat Field.  This is ministry done close to home, where enemies are bugs, lack of water, and the occasional cattle breakthrough which invades and damages your field.  Metaphorically these would be demonic interference, low level of Holy Spirit, and attacks of illness or accidents that harm people. But the worst problem is workers arguing with each other.This field is a ‘one another’ ministry. The workers occupy positions with titles defining the row they should hoe. Some teach and preach, others give comfort, and fellowship. Most of the Believers rarely venture away from the Wheat Field area.
The Battle Field.  Most (but not all) of this ministry takes place outside the confines of the fenced field. Much time away from home and family. This is the “out of the synagogue” minister Jesus talked about, beyond the four walls of The Building. Missionaries, street ministries, coffee houses, soup kitchens and other outreach. These deal with all manner of spiritual warfare with humans and devils, including at times workers from the Wheat Field who have wandered off and gotten lost in the Battlefield. This kind of ministry requires alone time with the Lord. Much prayer and study. In time these ministers “see” and “hear” truths from God like John on Patmos. They get their marching orders from God. Sometimes they bring lost lambs back to the Wheat Field. And they bring back words hard to hear, truth sometimes not believed by the Wheat People. There is a difference between “doing work” and “doing battle.” Neither ministry is easy, but warfare is the most brutal.
Some go back and forth between the two fields, working one and then rotating back to the other. But most of us have a calling and if we obey, we will stay put most of the time in that calling. It’s as the Lord leads. We grow, and eventually age naturally, so the Lord may move us into a difference venue. But for some, the Battlefield, its solitude and simplicity, is a way of life forever. Hudson Taylor in China and Amy Carmichael in India were dedicated, called to foreign missions people. They died on the Battlefield. (I urge you to research these miracle working people who overcame by the blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony.)
There are Battle Field workers who serve right at home. They work in their own native country, but outside the confines of organization and walls. They have contact with other Believers, but maintain their calling away from meetings and such. Some who serve this way do so a few years, even many years, then return to the old home grounds of the Wheat Field for a comfy retirement of sorts. (Servants of God never really retire!) They dispense wisdom and cheer on the younger folks. Some of them are like the old water wagon fire horses of long ago. These horses lived out their golden years in a nice pasture behind the Fire House. Whenever the fire bell started clanging, they ran to the gate with the other horses, but when they were left behind as the younger horses were chosen, when the wagons pulled away into the street the old horses would run around, bucking, pitching, snorting, stomping the ground and whinnying. They were still ready to get to the fire if they could. In their hearts they were fire horses until they died. I have known several older Godly ministers who were just like that! If someone gave them a chance to ‘say a few words’, they were always ready!
The final question here is: Do you, dear reader, know which field you are called into? There is a limited number of spiritual hoes in the Wheat Field. Many people sit around chatting with one another, but doing no actual work. If your title is “Most Faithful Pew-sitter” you need to reconsider the meaning of “ministry.”  If there is no place for you to help inside (no hoe for you), you might ask God if He is calling you outside! (Bridge ministry?  Nursing Home?)
Go into all the world and preach the Gospel to every creature. And He sent them to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick.  Mark 16:15, Luke 9:2 
Charlene Reams Manning, Believer in the Lord Jesus Messiah
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Remembering —  9-10-2016
I’ve heard teachings exhorting us to forget the past. We are new creatures, so we shouldn’t dwell on the past. I think this is true—to a point. But there is a difference in “dwelling” and “remembering”. Deuteronomy is full remembering, both good and bad. Remember how God led you, protected you. Remember the stupid things you did that caused real punishment, or a return trip to the Potter’s Wheel for reshaping!
When you have eaten and are full, then you must bless the Lord your God for the good land which he has given you. Beware that you do not forget the Lord your God, in not keeping His commandments and his judgments and his statutes which I [Moses] command you this day: So when you have eaten and are full, and have built nice houses and live in them . . . your heart is lifted up and you forget the Lord which has brought you. . . out of the house of bondage. [Deuteronomy 8:10 and following.]
Because of these verses, Jews to this day give thanks AFTER their daily meals. To close any gap between ‘them’ and ‘us’, this quote from The Power New Testament, including the footnote, hits the mark:
Remember in former times you were heathens in the flesh. You were called ‘uncircumcised’  [without Law] by the Jewish people. At that time you were without the Messiah and alienated from citizenship in Israel. You were aliens of the promise of the covenants* of God. You had no hope and you were in the world without God. But now you are in Messiah Yeshua. You, who were far away, have come near by means of the blood of the Messiah.  [Ephesians 2:11-13]
*Paul uses the plural form “covenants” here and in Romans 9:4, implying to the translators of the Power NT that every covenant has built on the preceding ones, in contrast to the (incorrect) translation of Hebrews 8:13. The word “new” in that passage is best translated as renewed.
There were 400 years of silence between Malachi and Matthew. No prophet, no word from God, nothing. The Jewish faithful clunked along, but many grew indifferent and far away from God. Then, in the fullness of time, came the renewing and reviving of the covenants in the hearts of the those who would SEE and remember. This renewal was the addition of their final covenant, God’s final promise to them predicted in the Old Testament time after time. The Messianic Covenant.
You must remember the Law of Moses, my servant, which I commanded unto you in Horeb for all of Israel, with the statutes and judgments. Behold, I will send Elijah the prophet (John the Baptist) before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the Lord: (The End Times) and he will turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the Earth with a curse. [Malachi 4:4-6]  The end of the Old Testament.
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A scroll of the genealogy of Yeshua Mashiach, Son of David, Son of Abraham. [Matthew 1:1]   In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.  [John 1-2]  The start of the New Testament.
Last Saturday, at sundown Jewish people the world over began a 40 day time called Teshuva. It is set aside for mourning (and remembering) one’s sins of the past year, in preparation for God’s Fall Feasts. The last ten days of this time is the Days of Awe, a time of repenting in prayer, asking forgiveness. The final day is Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, when sins are wiped away. Jews who hardly give a thought to their faith  the rest of the year, on Yom Kippur wear the Yarmulke cap (Kippah), pray under the prayer shawl, and fast until sundown. They are in fear and AWE of YHVH.
This year, I’m joining in for this time of reflection and personal remembrance before the Lord. I want to do some soul searching myself. I know in Messiah, every day is Yom Kippur, we can repent and be forgiven any time we go before that throne of Grace. But I want to pray under my prayer shawl, and think of the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David, and Yeshua. I want to remember, confess my sins, and honor the day He designated so many thousands of years ago for the express purpose of extending forgiveness to the people He loves. I am one of those!
10 Days of Awe begin Oct. 3, Yom Kippur Oct. 12th; both start at sundown the previous day. Because the Lord said in Genesis ‘the evening and the morning were the first day, second day,’ etc. Jewish days go from sundown through the next day to sundown.
My thanks to Judy Morgan Allen for providing calendar information for the WSS.
Charlene Reams Manning, Believer in the Lord Jesus Messiah                                                     
Copyright  September 2016
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Fate or Destiny?

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Fate or Destiny? —  6-11-2016
These two terms are close in definition but there is subtle difference. FATE: an inevitable, sometimes adverse outcome or end. ‘Fatalism’ is a belief that events in life are fixed in advance in such a way we human beings are powerless to change it. DESTINY: a predetermined course thought to be an irresistible power. ‘Destination’ is a place set for the end of a journey. We have some clues that the two things are not the same. There is an element of adversity with fate, a compelling ‘power’ with destiny.
The entire human race is destined to live with God in eternity, created for it. God made this covenant with us, extending an offer some of us find hard to refuse! We answer ‘yes’ to His offer and enter into His covenant. BUT, even with the gentle but powerful call of Holy Spirit going over the whole earth, there are some who will make the God-given choice to refuse to hear. They miss their destiny and go forward with their FATE. It’s one of the other, nothing in between. Humans are powerless before fate because they have refused the power of destiny.
So, what about those of us who heed the call and accept Jesus and His power in our lives? He energizes our lives every day, as we keep moving toward our final destination. But there are many lesser destinations for us as we go along. It’s that ‘more’ so many of us are looking for. We have a divine discontentment with status quo, as we hunger and thirst for righteousness. There was a song years ago, “I want more of Jesus.” It’s a good song and a worthy goal. Think of the disciples. Scholars say there was at least 500 faithful who had pledged their lives to Jesus before He ascended to heaven. These people understood His message and were personally acquainted with Him, not just part of the crowd. Then there were about 120 in the upper room on the Day of Pentecost who received a second infusion of power. Then there were ‘the women’ and The Twelve, about 20 people who qualified as best friends of the Lord. Then Peter, James and John. They were privy to things no one else got to see or hear. And then, John, who laid his head on Jesus’ chest at supper. His brag was “Jesus loves me, this I know.”
I believe each of these groups of people typify levels of understanding and service to be achieved in our quest for “Just a closer walk with Thee.” Remember that sweet, old song? It is likely all that group of 500 or more went on to serve Him mightily and no doubt many gave their lives in that service. The destiny we have in Jesus, before the final one in heaven, is hinged on the choices we make when He calls. The calls are compelling, but answering ‘yes’ is not mandatory. It is always our free-will choice.
Moses answered God’s calls and obeyed His voice. He got to SEE God face to face. Then, one day God called him to walk up on the highest mountain he had ever climbed. There, he saw the Promise Land that he would not be permitted to enter (because of one temper flare too many!) From there, he viewed the Land of Milk and Honey, and then, he stepped into his most glorious destiny of all: eternity.
How high have you climbed since you got saved? Are you still picnicking at the foot of the first hill? If so, I urge you to take hold of the next step in your destiny!  We who have turned our backs on ‘fate’ and accepted our destiny in Jesus must get on with it!!  The following thoughts excerpted from Lost in Translation, Vol 1, by John Klein and Adam Spears says it beautifully:
Today, many Believers think you can get saved and have all the intimacy [with the Lord] you will ever need by accepting the free gift, with no additional effort on your part. But salvation is only the beginning — it’s only the first step toward establishing the intimacy that God desires. At that moment (or very soon thereafter), He gives to each one of us the choice of increasing the maturity and intimacy of our relationship with Him. This is the reality that many seem to miss.
Philippians 2:12 says, “work out your salvation [literally ‘work out your success, terms of relationship, or obligations of covenant’; i.e., purity] with fear and trembling [earnestness and urgency].”
Charlene Reams Manning, Believer in the Lord Jesus Messiah                                                     
Copyright  April 2016
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Blind Bartimaeus

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Blind Bartimaeus —  2-5-2015
Bartimaeus is an obscure character. BUT He is a true Bible hero. He merits our admiration. We can learn from him. He was a Jewish professional beggar. He was blind. Begging was part of the welfare system during the time of Jesus. It was a good deed to give to a beggar. (Sort of like us helping the homeless.) To avoid those who would fake a disability, the priests devised a way to identify the truly needy. They made cloaks with a unique woven pattern. Only beggars could legally own one.
One day, Bartimaeus heard that Jesus was nearby, he began to yell out and say ‘the magic words.’ Not “please” but “Yeshua, you Son of David, have mercy on me.” He obviously he had heard that Jesus was a healer and the longed for Messiah. “Son of David” is code for the Messiah, the Anointed One. Asking for mercy was saying “Forgive me” because it was believed then that sin caused blindness and other afflictions. Bart was acknowledging Jesus had the power to forgive, which of course, is true!
As Bartimaeus was literally hollering this over and over, people told him to shut up! But he kept on hollering even louder. Jesus was walking along, heard him and stopped still. He called for the blind man, and the others told Bartimaeus, “Cheer up, He’s calling for you.” Bart immediately threw off his beggar’s robe, jumped up and started toward Jesus. He KNEW his life was about to change. That robe/cloak was the symbol of making a living the only way he could, but he was through with all that now! You can guess how this small incident ended. The blind man was healed, but there was more. See the Scripture passage below indicating that Bartimaeus didn’t just say thanks and run off to claim his new life. He became a Believer in The Way. And, like so many of the people Jesus touched in a short three years of ministry, Bartimaeus disappeared into his destiny in the Lord. His name is never mentioned again.
His story leaves us with an excellent example of great faith and persistence to have what we ask of God.  When Jesus said “What can I do for you?” Bart didn’t hesitate, he knew exactly what to ask for and wasn’t timid about it. It is written in the imperative like “You must have mercy on me right now!” The next thing he exhibited for us to remember was he attached himself to the source of all life. I have seen many people have a tremendous experience in the Lord, salvation, healing. Later they drop away, like they forgot what had happened to them. It’s because they didn’t throw off the beggar’s coat to put on their garment of salvation and praise. They just went back to their old life, sitting by the roadside hoping a little something good might come their way. I was one of those for a long time. Saved at age 13, but without much instruction, I didn’t know what to do next. Twenty years later, I heard someone say the equivalent of  “Jesus is coming this way.” I got up from my situation of living ‘less than’ and ran to find Him. It was glorious. My spiritual blindness was cured, and my life has never been the same.
If you are sitting by life’s roadside with some illness or other situation, or maybe in church meetings, wondering (as I was) “Is this all there is, Lord?”  The answer is a resounding “NO! it isn’t all there is. There is MORE.” And once you get to ‘more’ there is no end to its supply. Every day there is more to be gained and obtained in Jesus. My advice for you is throw off the beggar clothes. Scout around among your family and friends. Find that one oddball who is excited about life and praising the Lord, talking about the Bible and exuding a JOY that is hard to quantify and even a bit contagious. Investigate the source of the excitement and see if it is something that is ‘of God.’ Jesus may be passing by. Don’t miss Him! There are counterfeits, so be choosy, ask the Lord to give you discernment to show you where to find the real thing.
Jesus and His followers came to Jericho, followed by a large crowd.  A blind beggar, Bartimaeus, was sitting by the road. When he heard it was Jesus, he began to cry out, “You Son of David, Yeshua, have mercy on me.” The crowd rebuked him so he would be silent, but he shouted even more. Jesus stopped and said “Call him,” They said to him, “Be cheerful. Rise up. He is calling for you.” He threw off his coat, jumped up and came to Jesus. Jesus said, “What can I do for you?” The blind man said, “My Rabbi, that I could regain my sight.” And Jesus said, “You must go now, your faith has delivered you.” Immediately he regained his sight and followed Jesus in the way. Mark 10:46-52
Charlene Reams Manning, Believer in the Lord Jesus Messiah
copyright September 2015
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Our Faith Part 1—

Weekly Sabbath Survey
Our Faith Part 1 —  10-31-2015
At the turn of the Twentieth Century America’s leading newspapers addressed the following question to many notable people:  What, in your opinion, is the chief danger, social or political, that confronts the coming century? General William Booth, founder of the Salvation Army, was invited to respond. He replied
I consider the chief dangers which confront the coming century will be:
    1.    Religion without the Holy Spirit           4.    Salvation without regeneration (being Born Again)
    2.   Christianity without Christ                   5.    Politics without God  
    3.    Forgiveness without repentance          6.    Heaven without Hell
We might ask today, what is the state of our faith in the 21st Century? How do we stack up in those six problem areas Booth addressed? Bearing in mind that my opinions on certain matters of the Christian Faith are not food for the faint of heart, I offer the following commentary:
Religion without the Holy Spirit.  Many years ago Gentile Christianity settled itself into a ‘top heavy’ style of leadership that eventually became Pastor’s One Man Show. When a situation within God’s people goes so off the rails, it grieves the Holy Spirit and causes Him to withdraw. Many churches today (and for hundreds of years) have “Ichabod” written over their door and don’t even know it. If any of my readers think Ichabod is a character in American literature who appears on October 31st for “Hell’s Day” please read I Samuel Chapter 4. You will learn this word is not just someone’s name, but a description of the people of God. The “chabod” part means “the weight or mantel of God’s glory; His presence.”  The “I” part means “no or not or without”. We say “the glory of God has departed.” The Hebrew poses it as a question, “Why is the glory/presence gone?” God’s glory, His presence, is expressed to humanity by His Holy Spirit, who is the power source of The Church. Most churches and many individual Christians operate like an appliance that isn’t plugged in to the electricity. No Holy Spirit. No power. Lots of man power. No God power.
Christianity without Christ.  This would be the same Gentile mentality not understanding “without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin.” All that slaying and bleeding is just too barbaric for us modern Believers. We’re all dressed up real nice, greeting each other friendly like civilized people do, thinking we are square with God because we go to the right building on Sunday. We have a New Testament bloodless religion, not that Old Testament thing. God had a plan, but it is too primitive and antiquated for today. However, Jesus was a New Testament man. Rejected by the leadership of His people (the Ministerial Alliance), His death at the hands of Roman soldiers was as bloody as it gets. It was wiping out the sins of THE WORLD! But for many 21st Century Christians, He’s not a real SAVIOR who redeemed mankind. He is a man who died a long time ago. (But not before doing away with Judaism and starting the Christian Church.) He is an insipid weakling, an historical figure with sad eyes in those Renaissance paintings. Very few of us today are still singing “There’s power in blood” or “The Old Rugged Cross.”
Forgiveness without repentance.  So, here we are, all forgiven for reasons we don’t quite understand. We just know God is a nice God and He won’t send us to Hell. So, with no humility, no admission of guilt nor anguish for sin. No Spirit. No Blood. No Cross. No Born Again nonsense. No Repentance. No Weeping. And—-No Salvation! It is our pride, pure and simple. The opposite of humility is PRIDE. It is insane, but we actually believe that we are SO GOOD that we don’t need any fixing or molding or changing. Once we stopped drinking, beating our wife and kids, cheating on our husband, or stealing from the cash drawer at work, we think we are great. We don’t want to delve into matters of an unrepentant heart, or a wicked thought life. What we think/feel that nobody else knows about is private!  BUT . . . it is a straight path, a narrow gate that leads to righteousness, and only a few will find it. (Jesus said that.) People who are fat, dumb and happy in their sin will not get in. (Please understand, I am NOT talking about being overweight, although many of us [including me] could stand to drop a few lbs.)
Part Two — next week. 


Charlene Reams Manning
Believer in the Lord Jesus Messiah
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The Roman Problem

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The Roman Problem —  9-26-2015
It seems the pope has taken the U.S. by storm and won the hearts of everyone. I’ve not seen such fan adoration since the days of Sinatra, Elvis, and Dylan. The pope is a rock star! The media acted like he was the Second Coming of Christ. (I won’t expand on that remark. You can use your imagination.)
Part of the Roman Problem is Protestants live in our own little world and remain completely unaware that there is such a thing. We have no “Roman Problem.” We think we are free and yet some of us have bound ourselves to so much Catholic hooey, it’s a crying shame! I don’t want to elaborate, like Saturday vs. Sunday and a lot of other pagan things we have retained for two thousand years. But I think the Lord will allow me to go over the “foundations” of the Roman Catholic Church and the Protestant Church. Even buildings, from which we get the concept of a foundation, are structurally sound or not by their foundation. There is a big difference between the Roman Church and the Protestants, because of the foundations. As time passes the buildings of compromised foundations get worse and worse. Same with churches.
In religion (faith) or philosophy or lifestyle, whatever we call it, it starts with the foundation. Many Protestant denominational “Christians” are just as in love with their church as their Catholic counterpart. We become addicted to our churchy routine. Protestants don’t call it ritual but that’s exactly what it is. We come in the door and receive a little paper that tells us this happens right after that happens. Here we stand up, there we read together.  EVERY Sunday. The Holy Spirit couldn’t get in a place like that with a shoe horn! When He is present and the people acknowledge Him, the service is NEVER the same as last week.
BUT, and this is a big one: The Catholic Church was built on Roman paganism. The Roman Emperor Constantine knew religion was the way to control the masses. So his ‘church’ has a wicked and perverse FOUNDATION. Millions of very nice, well meaning and faithful people have pledged their allegiance to that “church” and itsmethod of bondage over them.
The Protestant denominations that came out of the Roman Church, starting with Martin Luther, asked the question “What can wash away my sin?” and they found the Biblical answer was “Nothing but the Blood of Jesus.” Over the centuries there were groups of people in Europe and later America, who came together by the power of God the Holy Spirit and founded more churches on the truth revealed to them. The way they “do” things down through the years may differ some from church to church, but the foundation of them all was (is) nothing less than “Jesus Christ and Him crucified.”  Salvation is by faith and grace NOT the work of rituals or money paid into the coffers.
Any church, Catholic or otherwise, can have these people who are so dedicated to the organization, the building, it’s like Stockholm Syndrome. Some are BORN into it, and that makes it even harder for them to see their captivity. Jesus talked about the ones who claimed to see and didn’t know they were blind. These captured people are blind and more:  they are deaf and think they can hear, they are slaves who think they are free. This kind of bondage is why thousands of children have been molested by church leaders. It must be OK if “Father” or “Pastor” says it is. (Think of Jim Jones. What a great protestant he was, huh?). Pastor worship is a dangerous game to play.
This strong spiritual blindness is only broken by a sovereign move of God. Catholics are the hardest to reach because their foundation has a pagan (demonic) power that holds them. It is mostly fear based. They are told if they leave the Catholic Church, they will burn in hell. There are Born Again Catholics under that “spell” who cannot bring themselves to leave. Sometimes other people actually talk the captives out of their prison, but it has to be anointed interaction and in God’s timing. Just stating the truth won’t set them free.
Jesus said, “You will KNOW the truth and the truth will make you free.”  He was speaking of the Messiah, the Anointed Savior sent by the Holy One of Israel. He was speaking of Himself, The Way, The Truth and The Life. These captives must embrace and receive truth, hear it on a spiritual level. No one comes to the Father (the knowledge of The Truth) unless the Holy Spirit draws them. We all have friends and relatives who are “married” to their church. Whether Catholic or Protestant, they love it more than they love Jesus or Truth. We need to pray for them and be prepared to be the answer to our own prayer. Somebody who has that anointing MUST tell them. As bringers of the Gospel, it follows that we should all be Tellers of The Truth. They may not like it, they may not get it, ever. We tell them anyway.
Go to them in the captivity and tell them “The Lord said this:”  whether they will hear you or not.  Ezekiel 3:11   
Charlene Reams Manning
Believer in the Lord Jesus Messiah
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Destiny of Judas

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Destiny of Judas –  8-29-2015
Guest contributor today is
Nickie Pinson, pastor and teacher
Jesus set a precedent and example for us at the Last Supper when he dealt with Judas. [John 13]  He knew who and what Judas was. He let the others know, too. But they were too slow on the trigger to figure it out until later on when Judas came with the Temple Guard to arrest Jesus. (Some people say Roman soldiers arrested Him, but that isn’t what happened. They got involved the next day. That night in the olive garden, it was the High Priest’s Temple Police).
After Jesus dipped the bread, He gave it to Judas and told him to go on and be quick about what he was going to do. Jesus knew what he was planning, but the others thought that because he was the treasurer, Jesus was sending him off to buy something they needed.
This is really a teaching about destiny. Jesus knew the destiny Judas had secured for himself. He had turned away from the similar destinies of the other men, to step into something else. His own plan. God’s Plan or our own plan. Sometimes we try out our plan and the Lord allows this for a time. But a time comes when we have to choose. 
When we have people in our lives that are doing their own thing, we pray for them and try to warn them. Jesus even warned Judas when He said to the group, “These offenses must come, but woe to the one who brings them.” 
But when the time came, He fully released Judas to get on with it. This is our example for our family and friends. After we warn them in love, as the Holy Spirit releases us from nagging or trying to persuade them. We must leave them to what they are doing and pray that they will come to the knowledge of the Lord they once knew, or maybe never knew.
Whichever, it is the Holy Spirit that calls them, not us. We must not get in the way of what He is doing or allowing. As a rule, we won’t know if and when someone reaches the point of no return, no hope. The Lord keeps that to Himself many times, and we just go on and keep praying for their immortal soul. But when He has given the person over to their ways, we should NOT interfere.
My observations: Letting go is very hard to do, but we must, in order for the Lord to accomplish the destiny of other people—–without our input. We may thwart the Holy Spirit to even negate our own prayers when we do not obey the Voice that tells us to back off! None of us wants a friend or relative to embrace the destiny of a Judas, so it is of vital importance that we are very sensitive to what we say (or not) to these people in our lives who may be walking the outer edge of the falling off place.   ~crm
I have not met Nickie Pinson in person. But over several years we have gotten to know each other through e-mail.I believe he is a minister who is first and foremost interested in the condition of his own heart. People in ministry who start there, are much better equipped to touch and teach the hearts of others. The Lord is looking for men and women whose hearts are as pure as He can make them in this wicked world we live in today. Thanks, Nickie, for being one of those. ~crm
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Charlene Reams Manning
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